tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5484799.post6411203816924249374..comments2023-10-16T06:34:49.367-05:00Comments on Old Whig's Brain Dump: I think people should read thisAlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12200768634540999752noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5484799.post-60114529794829173342009-12-12T06:43:54.591-06:002009-12-12T06:43:54.591-06:00While I'm at it, let me just embolden what I w...While I'm at it, let me just embolden what I wrote about with a parallel to marriages.<br /><br />In the past it was just as acceptable to beat your wife as it was to beat your kids. Men were considered the "head of the family" who could rule the family any way they saw fit. Similar kind of reasoning that is today still used to justify (even if little) spanking of kids was used for Daniel Memenodehttp://doubleplushuman.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5484799.post-89189840954583156612009-12-12T06:28:27.807-06:002009-12-12T06:28:27.807-06:00Well said Al. I think you got the point perfectly....Well said Al. I think you got the point perfectly.<br /><br />I strongly disagree with others above who seem to support the use of violence as means of "discipline". This "respect" you want to teach your kids is just another word in this context for blind obedience. I don't care to which extent it is blind, it is wrong.<br /><br />The point isn't that you treat all Daniel Memenodehttp://doubleplushuman.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5484799.post-44208007373983621812009-12-02T00:48:53.225-06:002009-12-02T00:48:53.225-06:00"Magnus", at the end of the discussion &..."Magnus", at the end of the discussion "Memenode" references, says this, "I told my young son (around age 4, I think) that something was his choice, and he latched onto that concept and ran with it. It has become a constant theme in our house.<br /><br />Now, he jealously guards his preferences, as he should. These days, the challenge for us as his parents is to learn Alhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12200768634540999752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5484799.post-70654171581397402222009-11-29T11:40:55.247-06:002009-11-29T11:40:55.247-06:00Training someone for a career path wouldn't be...Training someone for a career path wouldn't be called discipline though. And, even in that instance... one can only train them until they are 18 and they will travel from then the path they choose, whether it is what you've chosen or not. Personally, I don't think it's wise for a parent to ignore the child's wishes... but I don't think a parent who does is actually dealingDeb S.http://truebluegal.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5484799.post-27965481746714674532009-11-26T11:43:14.293-06:002009-11-26T11:43:14.293-06:00Thing is, Deb, that I read Al's original post ...Thing is, Deb, that I read Al's original post and the linked article leading to something quite different.<br /><br />The relevance of your comment would rely on <b>why</b> you were disciplined. If it was for behaviour, that would fall into the " social skills and morals needed to cope with living in society" side of the balance.<br /><br />On the other hand, if it was in responseThe probligohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17882103150181414348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5484799.post-83190253183357402562009-11-26T00:54:46.311-06:002009-11-26T00:54:46.311-06:00Well, my father believed discipline was had whilst...Well, my father believed discipline was had whilst swinging a leather strap. And, my mother allowed such. Was it pleasant? Not by a long shot. Did I learn something? Hell, yes. Were my frail little feelings irreparably harmed? Uh, no.<br /><br />I've been living in my parents home for the last three years now, caring for my mother who had a double stroke and cannot do for herself any longer.<Deb S.http://truebluegal.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5484799.post-70751779960261489902009-11-24T22:48:06.990-06:002009-11-24T22:48:06.990-06:00I don't think anybody could disagree with what...I don't think anybody could disagree with what you said, Deb, except, what is "overly strict?" And what is "not ruined?" <br /><br />If your kid grows up to marry bitch or a peckerhead, that's your fault for disarming their ability to recognize and avoid such people by normalizing that kind of behavior. People who love you are supposed to be bitchy...or they're Alhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12200768634540999752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5484799.post-30664655562750002562009-11-24T12:44:15.184-06:002009-11-24T12:44:15.184-06:00:( You're joking, right?
Unfortunately, child...:( You're joking, right?<br /><br />Unfortunately, children don't come out with any sense of right or wrong, nor the knowledge of how to make themselves thrive. Nor, with the skills to earn a living. Nor, with anything really useful to ensure their own survival. Which is why they have parents. Our job is not only to protect them, but also to teach them to care for themselves, and to be Deb S.http://truebluegal.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5484799.post-9300262513301530562009-11-22T16:34:29.955-06:002009-11-22T16:34:29.955-06:00Oh, following on that last comment.
This is th...Oh, following on that last comment. <br /><br />This is the father who allowed his 3 y-o daughter to climb an adventure playground and slide 3m down a fireman's pole. One compression fracture later...<br /><br />It didn't teach her anything. She took up mountain biking and spent time trying to fly there as well. Hi Kath! :DThe probligohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17882103150181414348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5484799.post-40541622285477682382009-11-22T16:21:31.407-06:002009-11-22T16:21:31.407-06:00"Children are born with a propensity toward s..."Children are born with a propensity toward self destruction and must be taught not to get killed easily."<br /><br />And this is the argument behind all of those well-meaning people who want to put rubber padding under any playground apparatus that is more than 1m off the ground "in case the little darlings hurt themselves".<br /><br />To converse to that, and to which I The probligohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17882103150181414348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5484799.post-6562322286957398732009-11-22T14:41:42.253-06:002009-11-22T14:41:42.253-06:00There is nothing wrong as treating children as equ...There is nothing wrong as treating children as equals in general, but we risk the same problem we have with treating humans as all being the same/equal. Children are born with a propensity toward self destruction and must be taught not to get killed easily.<br /><br />The same happens with adults. Even with a technologically advanced society, a good number of people are just monkeys who push LibertyBobhttp://www.libertybob.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5484799.post-51612603901114237132009-11-21T10:17:00.469-06:002009-11-21T10:17:00.469-06:00Having the knowledge that we are all eternal in na...Having the knowledge that we are all eternal in nature, having lived as equals prior to obtaining a mortal body, the idea of treating our children as equals is not new, at least not on a spiritual level. We as older mortal beings are responsible to our younger brothers and sisters, call it stewardship, all those mortal pitfalls which might endanger a safe and fruitful life are to be minimized.<brT. F. Sternhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10998813855197833260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5484799.post-72835727976265255022009-11-19T20:12:50.350-06:002009-11-19T20:12:50.350-06:00Al, I think it is one of those "get rich qui...Al, I think it is one of those "get rich quick" schemes, usually advertised as "earn $000's by sitting at your computer".<br /><br />Perhaps we should feel sorry for this little nameless being, trying so hard to make it rich in this big bad world not knowing that the return for its labour will probably not pay for the power to drive its laptop.<br /><br />I wonder, The probligohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17882103150181414348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5484799.post-75936954464454666962009-11-19T19:33:50.845-06:002009-11-19T19:33:50.845-06:00It's hard to credit Anonymous' sincerity.
...It's hard to credit Anonymous' sincerity.<br /><br />I have a question: how do you expect to get rich, leaving your ads on little-visited blogs?Alhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12200768634540999752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5484799.post-23670867984014126352009-11-18T17:43:21.687-06:002009-11-18T17:43:21.687-06:00Good post, Al.
There is always that very tentativ...Good post, Al.<br /><br />There is always that very tentative balance between guiding and restricting development of a child, and providing the social skills and morals needed to cope with living in society.The probligohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17882103150181414348noreply@blogger.com